Eldon Byrd is a renowned inventor and bio-engineer with many published papers and patents to his credit, especially in the audio-engineering field. He was blackballed by the Office of Naval Research where he worked in the 1970's for talking about Top Secret ELF research on human biological activity.
Duncan Laurie: We are getting this unusual signal coming out of the biological sensor Mike Theroux designed for us. It seems to react to anything in its field in spite of being thoroughly shielded and grounded. Basically, we start with pitch modulation coming off of a galvanometer which is pretty straight forward. But when we patch the signal through the Eventide Harmonizer, it becomes very dynamic, very profound by comparison. My question is: does the expanded range we give this signal by running it through the D.S.P. actually provide a window into the meaning of the signal, i.e.; revealing a hidden content there, or are we just embellishing a tone in a strictly mechanical way?
Eldon Byrd: Well, my guess is that the D.S.P. is actually acting like a window into the signal and here's why I say that. When you listen to the heartbeat with a stethoscope you get this two dimensional sound, right!? Welt, when you process that sound by looking at the phase information that is buried deep within it, you get other information; a far more enriched version of the same signal.
Duncan Laurie: You mean you see other information in the signal by opening it up, so to speak, with the phase shifting?
Eldon Byrd: Yes!; you get more of ways of looking at the heart than you did with just the stethoscope. You get a three dimensional plot or Catscan which can be rendered as cross sectional sheets of information. Think of the acoustical signal as a line from point (A) to point (B). Cut it at any place and take a section out, what do you get? A point. Now render that line as though it is a three dimensional mass like an apple. Cut a thin section out of the center, what do you get? A sheet of information.
Duncan Laurie: What does that information consist of?
Eldon Byrd: Basically you are now looking into the relationships between the components of the signal. What engineers are all taught in school is to look at amplitude and frequency. What is left out is phase information. Phase information is composed of real and imaginary parts. When you look at the solutions of the equations, the imaginary parts, which I'll get into in a minute, are basically ignored. The real parts show up on the oscilloscope as signals made up of other frequencies that are all nested together to produce the tone you hear. More than one signal creates phase relationships, one to another. That's where I think the real action is.
Duncan Laurie: Yes; That's true of every thing isn't it? The dynamics of communication exist in the subtleties inherent in the signal. Subtleties of innuendo in speech and word usage flavor the whole meaning of the information, for instance. Every type of communication has what you call "phase relationships."
Eldon Byrd: That's the part no one looks at in the engineering field, and that's the part that interests you and I the most.
Duncan Laurie: So, to put "phase relationships" in a more familiar context could I expand the metaphor somewhat? Take a Conga Drum. We know frequency is the beats per second and amplitude is how loud they are played. Could we explain phase relationships as the textures inherent in how the hand brushes the drum; the feeling component of how the musician's impulse translates into the way he strikes the drum, etc.?
Eldon Byrd: Sure. The relationship between these events is almost impossible to define because they contain a mixture of stated and implied values, what we call mathematically the real and the imaginary numbers.
Duncan Laurie: The imaginary numbers are what I'm calling the radionic component. 1 sense that your telling me that this radionic component is more accessible technologically today than most people think. How is that so?
Eldon Byrd: Well, let's look at your sensor again, and at the risk of getting too technical, discuss the anomalies you are experiencing in a different light. Since we spoke last, I learned that Hal Puthoff has received a patent (US. Patent # 5845220, 12/1/98, Including eleven pages of images) on a system that allows for the interaction of a magnetic field (termed "A" field in Findeman's lectures) to have correlated activity at a distance without loss of power or duration of time, meaning instantaneously. Now, according to Findeman's research, the "A" field is biological. Both the "A" and "Phi" component of the magnetic field are the "imaginary" aspects of the field. While the "B" and "H" components are the "real" magnetic fields that we can measure. Puthoff's patent describes a situation identical to a radionic transmission, though I'm not saying they are the same.
Duncan Laurie: So what form are these imaginary fields in?
Eldon Byrd: They are called scalar fields and are mathematically derived from the real fields. Every time you calculate a derivative you add another dimension. For instance, the derivative of distance is velocity; of velocity is acceleration. The derivative of acceleration gets you into the A and Phi fields, which is where everybody usually stops. In fact, Hal told me that the patent office made him take out all the language relating to faster than light communication.
Duncan Laurie: So going back to scalars, put this in layman terms for me, will you?
Eldon Byrd: (Laughing) You see physicists & engineers understand all this stuff but can't explain it to anybody else. Look at it this way. Take two vectors, i.e. signals, One traveling due east and one traveling due west but otherwise identical. Now superimpose them, they cancel each other out, right? Yet you go to measure that cancellation, leave the rneter on, the batteries in your meter run down. Where is all that energy going? Into the "imaginary" scalar field, or counterspace. Inventors like Bob Beck learned that the creation of the "A" scalar field that begins where the "B" fields cancel out is biologically active. The "A" field can't be detected as such, but it has a biological impact. This is the active field for subliminal process.
Duncan Laurie: Is it fair to say in that regard, when I use the term "conjugate space" to imply a parallel domain suitable for creative activity that we are talking about an actual medium to work in, and not just a metaphor?
Eldon Byrd: More or less.
Duncan Laurie: So when we speak of psycho-acoustic phenomenon and the emergence of imagery in the mind as a result of being saturated with these sounds three dimensionally in our music machine, we might be talking about a phase conjugation phenomena that is unlocking a lot of scalar fields in the vicinity of the listener, which may in turn be liberating imagery in the mind?
Eldon Byrd: It would be interesting to find out what frequencies the sensor is giving off in the area of brain waves. You can probably ascertain that from your data. The reason I say this is because there was an experiment where two electrodes were placed in a bowl of jello and the signals that came out of it looked like brain waves! Didn't you say that your sensor has a biological component?
Duncan Laurie: Yes, a gelatin slurry paste over the metal winding. And the signals we work with are all at 1 (one) Hz and below. That's brain wave territory, but what specifically they effect I don't know. Of course the sounds themselves are in the audible range.
Eldon Byrd: Well I can't imagine too many people have used gelatin for a sensor, can you? Maybe the sensor is giving off an A field. Hal only got his results in a superconductive state. But, biological processes can act like a superconductor under some situations.
Duncan Laurie: When, for instance?
Eldon Byrd: Well a superconductor uses almost no energy to effect a transaction. That is to say it frees up photons and electrons without friction or inertia slowing them down. This usually takes place experimentally at very low temperatures of liquid hydrogen or helium. But we accept a process called "tunneling" as a form of superconductivity in nature. This is where an electron disappears from one point of its orbit and reappears at another point. While its not there, it become a "virtual electron." Bill Tiller, Professor Emeritus at Stanford, published papers back in 1983 or 1984 in the Physics Review about this. He had an experiment where he had one photon in a dark vacuum with two slits for it to get out and be recorded on an emulsion. Well, the photon could only go out one slit, but an invisible "virtual" photon also came out of the opposite slit at the same time and left a trace on the opposite emulsion. This experiment actually challenged the conclusions of the Michalelson / Morley experiment.
(The Michaelson/ Morley experiment was used by Einstein to discredit the 19th century concept of an underlying "aether" behind the visible world.)
Duncan Laurie: Is that where they begin to get the notion about one centimeter of free space containing more energy than all matter in the universe? The Zero Point Energy?
Eldon Byrd: Sure, I can remember asking in high school how come the huge positive nucleus of the atom doesn't just absorb the tiny negative charge of the electron? Why doesn't it just suck it in? Well, the answer is that the latent energy in space holds it there in place.
Duncan Laurie: So going back to superconductivity, are you suggesting that the virtual photon exchange is going on all the time in our biology?
Eldon Byrd: We've been taking energy out of matter for 55 years, but we don't know much about making matter out of energy. But cells do it all the time. The other discovery I haven't told you about is the discovery of an optical system in our bodies that is parallel to the nervous system. One photon at a time moves through a microtubal system of water - a fiber optical laser.
Duncan Laurie: Who discovered this? It sounds like Hieronymus radionic eloptic energy patent.
Eldon Byrd: Stuart Hamarof at Arizona, but there is more. It seems every cell has a receptor of light, and that they can create a virtual photon inside themselves from a photon outside; i.e. the photon outside tunnels an "anti-photon" into the cell, instantaneously! When I've asked these theoretical physicists whether they can create space, they say "sure"! I said do you know what you are saying? That we are creating the space in an expanding Universe! The Hubble Telescope can see right now to the edge of the universe. Beyond that coherent edge is an incoherent chaos.
Duncan Laurie: Jesus, Eldon, you got all the way to the edge of the Universe tonight from the output of my little sensor!